Comments on: I believe the children are our future http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/ We have been trying to reach him for quite some time. Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ike http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Ike Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:06:31 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-81 I made it clear that I was not making a statement about abortion, although I have many times in the past referred to the practice of passing huge deficits to future generations as "Economic Violence Against the Unborn." And I have long self-identified as a lowercase-L libertarian. I made it clear that I was not making a statement about abortion, although I have many times in the past referred to the practice of passing huge deficits to future generations as “Economic Violence Against the Unborn.”

And I have long self-identified as a lowercase-L libertarian.

]]> By: Chris http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Chris Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:37:11 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-80 The Libertarian party platform statement on abortion: "1.4 Abortion Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration." http://www.lp.org/platform Interesting how the rights of the "unborn" pre-empt the rights of the mother given the "life begins at conception" argument. Perhaps the clear point for agreement from a Libertarian perspective is that it is a personal decision. The Libertarian party platform statement on abortion: “1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.”

http://www.lp.org/platform

Interesting how the rights of the “unborn” pre-empt the rights of the mother given the “life begins at conception” argument.

Perhaps the clear point for agreement from a Libertarian perspective is that it is a personal decision.

]]> By: Ike http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-77 Ike Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:50:35 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-77 There was no implication about abortion rights, but let me was for a moment on that in a way that might or might not square with Personal Freedom: If you define life as not starting until birth, then Abortion Rights are purely about Personal Freedom. If you define life as starting with conception, then that nascent life has a Personal Freedom that is to be guaranteed. And if you're with the majority who aren't entirely sure WHERE life starts, but DON'T agree with either of the extremes, then welcome to the muddle in the middle. When reduced to fundamentals, the argument about Abortion Rights doesn't belong in a Libertarian outlook. One does not necessarily follow the other. There was no implication about abortion rights, but let me was for a moment on that in a way that might or might not square with Personal Freedom:

If you define life as not starting until birth, then Abortion Rights are purely about Personal Freedom.

If you define life as starting with conception, then that nascent life has a Personal Freedom that is to be guaranteed.

And if you’re with the majority who aren’t entirely sure WHERE life starts, but DON’T agree with either of the extremes, then welcome to the muddle in the middle.

When reduced to fundamentals, the argument about Abortion Rights doesn’t belong in a Libertarian outlook. One does not necessarily follow the other.

]]> By: Chris http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Chris Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:25:09 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-76 Agreed. On a related note to this thread, isn't the concept of abortion restriction (I assume that was one of the thrusts of your post) in opposition to the libertarian principle of personal freedom? Or did I miss your implication? Agreed.

On a related note to this thread, isn’t the concept of abortion restriction (I assume that was one of the thrusts of your post) in opposition to the libertarian principle of personal freedom?

Or did I miss your implication?

]]> By: Ike http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Ike Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:59:14 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-75 Not to mention the staggering debt we place on them before they are born by printing money we do not have to buy things we can't bequeath to them without taxing again. Not to mention the staggering debt we place on them before they are born by printing money we do not have to buy things we can’t bequeath to them without taxing again.

]]> By: Chris http://www.callingjohngalt.com/2009/01/19/i-believe-the-children-are-our-future/comment-page-1/#comment-74 Chris Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:51:09 +0000 http://www.callingjohngalt.com/?p=227#comment-74 Certainly we tax workers from the age of 14 onward. ...even though they cannot obtain a driver's license until 16, cannot vote until 18. And cannot drink until 21. Taxation without representation? Most definitely yes. Certainly we tax workers from the age of 14 onward. …even though they cannot obtain a driver’s license until 16, cannot vote until 18. And cannot drink until 21.

Taxation without representation? Most definitely yes.

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